tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-827769867360256958.post3334571724359116135..comments2024-01-14T03:16:09.597-08:00Comments on Kindke's Scrap Notes: Intermittent Fasting and Diurnal CortisolKindkehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15841418412425329998noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-827769867360256958.post-76908557549382194622012-08-19T13:33:02.430-07:002012-08-19T13:33:02.430-07:00I've linked to this in the comments here:
http...I've linked to this in the comments here:<br />http://hopefulgeranium.blogspot.co.nz/2012/08/the-role-of-vitamin-fortification-in.html<br />The eating window works for me, which is about the fatty liver and DM2 benefits rather than weightloss.<br />What would happen if they switched the fattened rats to the IF diet?<br />What would happen if they disordered light cues fr the IF rats, but kept them strict for the non-IF?<br />Here's the fulltext of the study you posted about:<br /><a href="http://www.google.co.nz/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CGMQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fge.tt%2Fapi%2F1%2Ffiles%2F2uOgdtH%2F0%2Fblob%3Fdownload&ei=q0wxUJ2aLciUiAe_34HgCg&usg=AFQjCNE-HKD1UfY37BYpNKe15DVMr5T1kA&sig2=AHAW4Km5rRByQu2G7ihfsw" rel="nofollow">Panda Salk IF trial</a>Puddleghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00953398103675945541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-827769867360256958.post-59752485044885062012012-07-23T05:21:48.425-07:002012-07-23T05:21:48.425-07:00I did not start loosing weight continuously until ...I did not start loosing weight continuously until I started skipping breakfast. Two tsp of coconut oil in the morning coffee gives me the energy needed to walk to work, run around for a couple of hours, and walk back home for lunch. Eggs and a salad is my typical lunch. When I do this, I consider it having nailed it until dinner. I am glad to learn the science behind what my experience has shown, eating early is just extra calories that are not needed, and lead me to weight gain. The eating window type of eating was popularized by the Fast5 diet. I did this several years ago and did loose weight. I could not maintain with the program and was for nauht.TJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10094648142665862679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-827769867360256958.post-46942526529701854552012-05-18T17:15:30.074-07:002012-05-18T17:15:30.074-07:00Oh, I just groan when I read some of these IF stud...Oh, I just groan when I read some of these IF studies, since I am not a rat and I IF was also a disaster for me when I got older and combined it with a desire to reduce calories. I say desire, since my overall amount of daily calories didn't really go down that much. Yes, a calorie is a calorie, but zig zag calories on alternative days led to disordered sleeping and nighttime eating. This is why I like Jack Kruse. Despite being mad, he was the only one with a plausible explanation as to why IF is bad for some, and he is the only one I know warning people about it.Exceptionally Brashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13177479330600606059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-827769867360256958.post-51967185051043247232012-05-18T12:03:59.499-07:002012-05-18T12:03:59.499-07:00dunno the feeding pattern of the ad-lib rodents th...dunno the feeding pattern of the ad-lib rodents the full text is behind a paywall :(, BUT yeh I doubt they are eating constantly throughout the day/night. However I think that if food is constantly under your nose, you tend to graze and nibble, that cant be good tbh, even humans do this.<br /><br />Im sure I tend to over produce cortisol slightly, rarely am I hungry in the morning, and even after exercise it takes about 2 hours for hunger to set in. If I eat immediately after exercise it just feels really fucked up. It makes me feel very stiff.Kindkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15841418412425329998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-827769867360256958.post-91937447082355718692012-05-18T11:14:57.776-07:002012-05-18T11:14:57.776-07:00I never ate breakfast until CW got to me and I sta...I never ate breakfast until CW got to me and I started to consume cereal. Nothing used to make me more nauseated than eating that sugary garbage in the morning. I couldn't even finish the bowl. Somehow I didn't think this was a sign that breakfast is bad for you, I thought it just took getting used to. LOL - brainwashing really works.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14107632038306560194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-827769867360256958.post-14728239613813282532012-05-18T08:36:41.536-07:002012-05-18T08:36:41.536-07:00now, THERE'S an interesting idea.... i wonder...now, THERE'S an interesting idea.... i wonder if anyone has ever made a note of WHEN ad-libitum-eating mice get their intake?tesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04254045589639201707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-827769867360256958.post-36516166137434686502012-05-18T01:05:19.101-07:002012-05-18T01:05:19.101-07:00Very interesting, and naturally I agree :)
Few peo...Very interesting, and naturally I agree :)<br />Few people seem to have an appetite in the morning, and advice to eat early and fast in the evening is unnatural to our impulses as well as counter intuitive to our endocrinology.<br /><br />In the case of the rodents, I wonder if the picture is an accurate representation of hteir feeding pattern - did the rodents really eat their calories evenly over a 24 hr period? This would suggest the rodents simply were not ever sleeping a dedicated block of time. It may be that many of the problems observed in rodents fed a high fat diet might be that in rodents high fat diet leads to wakefulness because they are preoccupied with eating the novel fat food, so the rodents do not normally sleep during the day like they should. In other words, the metabolic abnormalities are not just from fat but primarily because the rodents are not sleeping normally, which is well known to EXPLODE the body.ItsTheWooohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12057537399918684119noreply@blogger.com