Still doing 23/1 but ive stalled on the weight loss, although I have been eating a fair amount of carbs recently. Its not my fault, carb appetite goes up in the winter, exactly when you are most glucose intolerant. Other than that, it is generally just alot harder to lose weight in the winter, despite a higher metabolic rate in response to the cold, I think in general people gain weight in the winter.
Its simple, I need to cut the carbs to continue weight loss, I know it. As fantastic as 23/1 is, ( Im amazed I havent actually gained weight from the carbs ive been eating ), there comes a point where you just gotta get the insulin lower.
Through meticulous observation, I have come to see how my body reacts to certain foods. For myself, I have found that food generally falls into 4 distinct categories when it comes to weight control.....
1 ) Foods that actively promote weight loss - vinegar, coconut oil, whey protein, fish/omega3
2 ) Foods that "allow" weight loss to progress - meat, eggs, cheese, vegetables, cream, seafood, butter
3 ) Foods that slow weight loss and/or promote weight stability - Milk, Yogurt, nuts, fruit*** ( not banana )
4 ) Foods that actively promote weight gain - rice, potato, pasta, bread, banana, wheat, fruit juice, anything with added sucrose.
Im still puzzled by Dairy, despite it being highly insulinogenic, I havent been able to figure out why it doesnt cause weight gain in the same way that starch and sugars do. Dairy may produce a strong GLP-1 response, but I have a feeling that it is something to do with increased glucose disposal into adipose tissue that promotes the weight gain. Yogurt sweetened with sucrose is fattening, but plain yogurt is not.
I find it practically impossible to lose weight at this time of the year. I've been doing hardcore ketosis for the last 5 days or so and normally in the summer I would have lost a few lbs by now, even if mostly excess bloat / fluids, whereas now I'm just holding steady. Insulin is higher at this time of the year. I'm waiting for the spring to arrive and hoping I can survive the winter without too much damage.
ReplyDeleteEvery year I look back, December and January are the 2 months where I gain about 80% of the weight I end up trying to lose again in the following summer.
DeleteKindke, do you make your own yogurt? not only do i think my longer-cultured home-made stuff is a better probiotic, i also feel it's much lower in carbs.... perhaps the higher lactic acid is acting like pickles/vinegar for weight loss?
ReplyDeletetoo lazy for to make me own lawl :)
DeleteBut I have access to a private farmer who does good quality dairy and their yogurt is great
My goal until april is to not get that fat.
ReplyDeleteBy the time I get over the first nervous system thrashing, after fall ends, I will tend to then be weight stable until spring... but technically fatassery and depression remain problems / risks until feb.
I highly suggest substances such as light/tyrosine/sjw which can not only eradicate seasonal mood problems but alter my metabolism as well to a more spring like condition. My mood is not only normal/better/motivated after several days of this but my appetite is soooo much lower and sleeping too. I've actually started to lose weight and I didn't exercise more, as if my body is using body fat for energy purely because of the neuroendocrine ( ;) ) changes elicited by light/tyrosine/sjw. I literally have not exercised more, but I appear to be normally using body fat for energy - the result is I've lost some of the fat I had otherwise gained while in SAD hiber-land.
Even if you don't experience depression or SAD I do wonder if tyrosine/SJW/light can help appetite and weight gain patterns in winter?
Ill give tyrosine a go, I havent used it before, and id prefer to stay open-minded with regards to supplements, Indeed just surviving winter without weight gain is worthy in itself, never mind weight loss in winter
DeleteRe: dairy...
ReplyDelete-May contain CLA which promotes fat oxidation
-Calcium also increases metabolism
-Generally made of fat/protein and is much more like meat than sugar or starch. Dairy is insulinogenic but it contains a lot of protein and so much of the insulin is promoting muscle anabolism and regulating gluconeogenesis, not as much fat storing like sugar or starch.
Dairy :
ReplyDeleteI have found that Raw milk contributed to a weight loss stall I was going through and I eliminated dairy for a while. The digestive benifits, as well as the great tast and awesome feeling I get after drinking a glass forced me to find a compromise. I eat 2 meals daily L/D, and I drink a 6oz glass at dinner only, if not every night, at least 5 times a week. Drinking milk at lunch proved to be just to many carbs for me at that time of the day.
Not so much time of day, but I have definitely noticed weight loss slows or stops all-together with milk drinking. On the other hand my health is much better with milk in my diet. Frustrating......
DeleteHey, I recently learned Kindke has a blog, so I am in the process of going through archives . It is a great one. I feel it in my guts you are not about to start posting about safe starches and being in diet balance .
ReplyDeleteJust came across your blog for the first time yesterday and have a lot to read.
ReplyDeleteI love finding well researched viewpoints that are contrary to what I have been exposed to recently and your blog seems quite relevant to those of us who have lost a lot of weight and now feel "stuck".
I need to ask though... what is 23/1? Judging by the term assume it is your eating window of one hour per day? Is that correct? And is that 7 days a week? Just wondering what the rules are that make a way of eating 23/1 and make it work for you.
Wonderful blog and I am sure to be reading for hours over the next week or two.
yes 23/1 means I eat only 1 large meal a day, either at lunch or dinner. Also called the warrior diet.
DeleteIve done enough research to convince me that this eating method is the optimal way to eat for optimal health, I have to be careful when communicating with females about this though as they seem to despise any kind of intermittent fasting and their tone will change to stand-off-ish, confrontational when discussing IF.
Yes its 7 days a week, I started it in september 2012 and have been doing it ever since, and loved every minute of it. ( ive cheated a bit in winter due to cold, sometimes I had some snacks late in the evening before going to bed )
rules are simple, eat as much as you want during your 1 daily meal. eat at approx same time eevryday and NEVER ever make your 1 daily meal breakfast. Onlt lunch or dinner. Its easy to get everything you need in 1 meal.
Although I advocate lowcarbing in general, ive been eating significantly more carbs on 23/1, easily 150g per day. And havent gained weight from it. Usually eating potato/rice/bread makes me rapidly gain weight, but not if I do 23/1.
As mentioned in this post, im currently stalled on weight loss, and I need to get the insulin lower by cutting carbs to continue weight loss.